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Friday, 18 November 2011

Baroque - Another new bar. Discussion


I'd be interested in comments on the prospect of another Bar opening next month.

You may have noticed the rapid transformation of the old car showroom at the bottom of West Street into "Baroque" a bar/club that surely will be targeting the younger generation who have have, up to now, generally headed straight into Southend or Leigh for their entertainment.

They plan to open before christmas and are interviewing for new staff on Thursday, 24th November.

Will the Bar enrich Rochford's night economy? Provide an alternative from the existing pubs? Or do you think it may spread Rochford's already strained spending power too thinly? Or if you have any other comments, it would be good to get a healthy debate going.

29 comments:

  1. I live in Rochford and am very much looking forward to the opening. I am 32yrs old and like to head to Leigh for a refreshing change to the Rochford pubs.

    I'm hoping it will attract those who are like minded to stay in Rochford and I'm sure its not just targeted at youngsters, as I'm sure they will want people with a bob or two to be attracted to it.

    Rochford needs modern alternatives to the many struggling 'local' pubs - which I also frequent. With the recent addition of the Grey Goose and soon to open Italian restaurant (next to Baroque), its heading in the right direction.

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  2. I hope it succeeds (ditto the Grey Goose, which does lovely food in lovely surroundings), but I cannot help thinking that the local market is reaching saturation point. How many restaurants/bars/pubs/eating places does a rural town need, or rather, how many can it afford to sustain?

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  3. The Italian Restaurant proposed for 64/66 West Street (formerly "Arthy's") will round off a remarkable transformation in Rochford's eating and drinking options in the past year (Rose Garden Restaurant, Grey Goose, Baroque....)It can only be positive and I hope the pent up demand, those of us that want to spend money eating and drinking where we live, rather than in nearby towns, will ensure the new businesses' success.

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  4. I think you will all be very sadly disappointed, I too had hoped it would be a lovely 'wine bar' much needed in Rochford and a pleasant change to the 'pubs'- instead on Friday was greeted with kids (its only over 18) and vile music and a friend had the kind offer of some recreational substance!!! Its everything Rochford doesn't need and the management need to sort things out before it becomes the youth club of the area... as for the Grey Goose.. lovely, grown ups spending money.. good business sense!

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  5. I see they're only opening over the weekend Friday to Sunday

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  6. Baroque has only been open a short while, already the pavements are littered with cigarette ends, broken glass and vomit. From the outside it looks like a seedy nightclub, While The Grey Goose has been lovenly restored, excellent food,great service, and brings class to Rochford. Baroque owners need to teach their staff how to clear up at the end of the night.

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  7. I agree with Anonymous. I live within the vicinity of Baroque and it's ruining my weekends. It's 01.00 am Monday morning and the persistent base which I have tolerated since mid-afternoon has only just stopped. I came to live here two months ago to get away from the rowdier crowds in Southend, only to be plagued with this. Half-eaten kebabs in our doorway, music blaring, men shouting and swearing, women crying - something should be done about sound-proofing and the staff should learn how to control their patrons, with a swift reminder when they spill out onto the street in the early hours of the morning that this is a residential area and we don't all have the luxury of being able to get up late the next day. Who was responsible for granting a licence to this place, I'd like to know. I bet they don't live anywhere near here.

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  8. A big thank you for the guys who opened and run Baroque. It's a great well run establishment that was very much needed in Rochford.

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    1. You are having a laugh!! Its a DIVE!

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  9. The new bar is a fab venue to visit on the weekend. I'm very happy that my two daughters and son have a safe place to enjoy some fun locally at weekends. Hope they keep to very strict policies that they are currently applying. There is no added noise or disruption that I have herd about or witnessed. Neither our family or many local resident friends herd of any trouble from the place. I wish the new bar every success.

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  10. Its great now we have this new wine bar in Rochford. All our family love having a few drinks there at the weekend. It's very well run. Strict but polite management and door staff.

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  11. With the new Baroque and The Grey Goose now open it's help making Rochford a better place to socialise. Its more fun to have a few jars and mix with the locals than sitting indoors typing crap. Lol.

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  12. Frankly I hope this place sinks like a lead balloon! I moved away from Southend to get away from everything that somewhere like this will bring to Rochford. For example arguing in the street, swearing, shouting, thumping bass vibrating through my wall and most recently a half eaten kebab dumped outside my front door. I like a drink, I like to go clubbing, I'm 27 so I hope to still do that for some time but I know where the clubs are. The attitude and clientel that these places attract are not what I moved to Rochford for. Arent there some places that should be safe from nightclubs? Also, given Britains current binge drinking situation is it really wise to open ANOTHER nightclub with extended opening hours? Its just welcoming the binge drinking culture in to Rochford with open arms. I think all of you who are singing its praises will come to regret it if Baroque stays. The mess outside is evidence that the place takes no responsibility for its patrons. The Miley and Rose Garden are basically my back garden and I have never been disturbed by them. Baroque has been nothing but a pain and a grim reminder of what I thought and hope I still have left behind.

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  13. Let your local Councillor know if the noise and disturbance bothers you. They can help. In central Rochford it is Gill Lucas or James Cottis - you can find their contact details from the Council website rochford.gov.uk

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  14. After all the fights that are now occurring thanks to the opening of Baroque, I can't wait for it to be closed down. Horrible bar. People are being bottled now. Time for it to stop. Bye bye baroque and good riddance.

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  15. walked by there sat night to drop a friend at the station, totally awful place, people arguing loudly outside, bottles smashing, everyone looked very very drunk and rowdy, totally not what Rochford needs and with 1£ drinks for ladies now, it's only going to get worse, they should shut this place down!

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  16. I am disgusted that a lovely town like Rochford has accepted this awlful bar. It looks like a bomb has hit it from the outside, and as for selling girls drinks for £1 that does worry me. I have heard blokes must be over 25 to get in so it sounds like a sex club if you ask me and also a bit of drugs going on. GET THIS TRAMPISH-LOOKING BAR OUT OF ROCHFORD!! If people wanted to go out, they'd go to Southend. Places like this make Rochford look nasty.

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  17. If drugs are going on and you see it but don't report you have YOURSELF to blame when it gets worse.

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  18. If there are so many negative comments being posted here why can't we all get together to get rid of this place? I'm sick of trying to watch TV with the constant boom of bass music in the background - my flat vibrates with the noise. When the extension was granted (thankfully the seven nights a week was turned down) it was supposed to be with conditions, one of which was sound-proofing. The new door was another condition, it could help to keep the noise inside if ever it was closed, but of course it isn't. Somebody is supposed to patrol the building once an hour to ensure the noise levels are kept within the building - that's obviously not happening. I noticed at least one of the cars parked outside on the pavement Saturday afternoon had a parking ticket - the driver of the other thing, massive great black thing that shouldn't even be on the road let alone the pavement, decided he was going to pull away just as I was going back home with my grandchildren - since when did anybody have the right to drive on a public footpath? The owner of this bar obviously thinks he can do as he likes and so far he's getting away with it, to the detriment of anybody who lives around here. The local elections are coming up soon - I'll vote for anybody who can put an end to this misery.

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  19. The Council will not act only the Licensing authority, the Baroques intention was to open 7 Days but was blocked due to a various letters to the licensing office. This end of West Street has become an instant slum. A petition should be drawn up and givem to the Rochford MP forget the councillors they cannot lose face and go back on their word.

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  20. I have posted about this awful place before, this morning I walked past there was the usual filth on the pavements, but coming home I now notice the front is adourned with tacky pink signs offering £1 drinks for girls, I thought we lived in a conservation area, does that mean we can all stick tacky signs up where we like!!

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  21. someone should start a PETITION, to get this place shut down!!!!!!

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  22. More extensions to the licence granted till 03:00 this weekend - and my son disturbed two cocaine snorters in our car park, who, in their hurry to get away spilled there cocaine on the ground - it's still there. Nice - and the estate agent who manages this block was concerned because I claim Housing Living Allowance and there was a possibility I could lower the tone of the area...........

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  23. Since writing my post advocating the bar, I have done a complete u-turn. It's an awful, discussing place and living very nearby I witness many a sight, including public urinating, fighting, drug taking etc I've had to ask people to remove themselves from my yard (off West Street) after it has closed.

    The owner clearly doesn't give two-hoots about how it is effecting the community.

    How do we get this place shut down???

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  24. The answer to your question is to keep on complaining to the Police ,the licensing office and the antisocial behaviour office of Rochford Council. The licence is up for review very soon so more complaints may stop the agony.

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  25. In answer to my own question, it appears to have changed ownership. I walked past last night and a temporary sign saying "Oak Lee" was displayed. The slant appears to be more towards live bands, snooker etc.

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  26. I know of the people who have taken this over and the son is a well know trouble maker in trouble with drug dealers, I really wouldn't say this to be an improvement!!! I certainly would NOT want my son or daughter going there

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  27. Hi,

    I'm the new General Manager of Oaklee's and having read through all these comments, I feel you are due an explanation. Not of what has been, but of what is planned to happen.

    I can't speak for Baroque as it has nothing to do with myself or the current owners. I can, however speak for the new direction we're taking as 'Oaklee's Cafe Bar'.

    It's my understanding, that various promoters and managers have tried to lean this venue towards the nightclub genre since it's been open and that decision hasn't been beneficial for the bar and quite clearly hasn't sat well with most of the local community.

    The new owner's have invested money and time in the bar so far to lean it towards a more sociable venue, featuring top live entertainment, sport and gaming facilities - the weekends have still been work in progress and we're now taking steps to change the face of the bar completely. Not just cosmetically (with an outside refurbishment planned), but in the service and overall atmosphere we provide.

    Over the coming weeks we'll be soft launching our new menu and plan to provide a great standard of pub/bar dining and service all day, every day. Including a range of coffee's, milkshakes and smoothies. There will be an open invitation to the launch day (TBC) to all local residents with free food and soft drink samples for you to try.

    By night, we plan to use our wide open plan space to it's advantage and promote top live entertainment including live bands and comedy nights. I myself have run comedy events in and around Southend for over 10 years and plan to bring that proven product to the bar as early as 30th June 2013.

    Whilst we'll still have DJ's on Friday and Saturday nights only, the volume and content of the music will not only make weekend nightlife more bearable for the residents in the immediate area, but will hopefully encourage a more 'happier' atmosphere and a wider age range. We of course will continue to stick to our promise of ending DJ sets at 12:30am on Fri and Sat to aid in noise reduction and keep our volume to a reasonable level you'd expect in a local music venue at the weekend.

    I can see for some of you, your patience has already been tested to breaking point, I just ask you bear with us a short while longer whilst we begin to implement these changes.

    I welcome any feedback, in fact I encourage it - it will help us give Rochford what it wants and then everyone is a winner! Please feel free to contact me direct on oakleesross@gmail.com with any query you may have.

    Regards,

    Ross McGrane

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